an autumn hike

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  • 12-05-2004, 07:20 PM
    Seb
    an autumn hike
    Here are two shots taken earlier this autumn. It's rather frustrating to see how much nuances are lost from the raw files in the jpeg conversion but that's life...

    please criticise...

    Seb
  • 12-05-2004, 08:27 PM
    gahspidy
    Re: an autumn hike
    Seb, the first shot of what appears to be s a bush with a leaf on it might have been better had you zoomed out or stood further back to get a wider angle. Also the blurred area in the foreground is distracting. The wider angle would also have given you more dof.
    The second shot of the trees is nice. Good comp. I like the many straight trunks standing amidst all the colorful leaves that seem to be floating around them. Good
  • 12-05-2004, 10:27 PM
    zac
    Re: an autumn hike
    i think the composure of the first image is exclent, it makes for a very interesting image,
    it its close enuf to see the the main subjet of the image (pink flower) yet also allows us to see a large portion of the green shrub
    top picture!
  • 12-06-2004, 05:25 AM
    CTPhil
    Re: an autumn hike
    I think the green in the first picture is moss. Of the two pictures, the colors, composition and texture of the second is the most pleasing to me.
  • 12-06-2004, 04:31 PM
    Seb
    Re: an autumn hike
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Seb
    Here are two shots taken earlier this autumn. It's rather frustrating to see how much nuances are lost from the raw files in the jpeg conversion but that's life...

    please criticise...

    Seb

    Thank you guys for your comments.

    Gary, The lighting compelled me to shot the leaf on moss but somehow, I failed to notice how annoying the blurry foreground was. It just seems plain obvious to me now that you have talked about it. The tree (#2) shot is something that I had in mind for quite a long time and it turned even better than what I was expecting.

    Zac, which flower?? lol. I thank you for the kind words but I think that a part of the foreground should go.

    CTPhill, you are right about the moss. I am glad that you enjoy the trees shot.

    Seb
  • 12-06-2004, 04:47 PM
    Young Shooter
    Re: an autumn hike
    Hey seb its about time i see a picture from u on this site, the better of the two is the bottom one and what do u mean u loose what? when u change raw from jpeg please help me out on this one
  • 12-06-2004, 05:10 PM
    Seb
    Re: an autumn hike
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Young Shooter
    Hey seb its about time i see a picture from u on this site, the better of the two is the bottom one and what do u mean u loose what? when u change raw from jpeg please help me out on this one

    Hey, Well I think that I have posted quite a lot of pictures here since I became active on the board in february. I gotta put more stuff in my gallery but you may want to give a look at my messages history if you are interested to see more of my work.

    About your question, I have been shooting in RAW for the past two months. I was only shooting in jpeg fine before that. Since I started to shoot RAW, I quickly realized that much more informations were retained. I wouldn't say that the resolution is literally better but there are much more nuances into the colours. The lighting (when there is a proper lighting) get more subtle. The tonal range that is captured is wider. In short, the pictures are more lively. This is something that I can see on my monitor when looking at my RAW files yet it get lost when I compress the pictures to post them on this site. They don't look any better than jpeg fine files at that point (which is more than decent but somewhat deceiving as comparison hurts).

    Seb
  • 12-06-2004, 10:20 PM
    CaraRose
    Re: an autumn hike
    Hi Seb,

    I like the first one, but there the soft focus around the edges is a little distracting, especially with the darker (leaves?) at the top.

    I really like the light on the tree trunks in the second, and the lines in the photo.
  • 12-07-2004, 12:36 AM
    Steph_B
    Re: an autumn hike
    Hi Seb,

    The composition of the second pic is my favorite. Keep in mind this spot for when you will have some snow! It will then be awesome! One little detail though: two of the bigger trees are merging at their base which is (slightly) distracting. If you have the opportunity, I would suggest you to look for a different viewpoint ... but this is really just a detail (yeah yeah, I know, I am a bit obsessive about some stuff!)

    I have been looking for a patch of trees that would be suitable for this type of pic. No luck so far. We have too many pine trees around....

    The first pic does not do it for me. Sorry :(. The soft edges are distracting. It is actually rare to find nice pics whose BG and FG are both out of focus (besides some macro shots). I also have some difficulties in getting a sense of scale from the pic. Is the leaf big or small? Is this moss or some bush? :confused: But most of all, the color of the leaf does not look very natural on my screen. However, I do admit that I've seen some pretty strange colors out there lately. Is it possible that the automatic white balance of your D70 may have been 'swamped' by the deep green of the moss/bush and somehow mismanaged the leaf?

    BTW, I've never noticed that you were from Montreal before. Such a cool city! I lived 6 months near McGill, on Lorne Avenue. I loved every second of it!

    Cheers,

    Steph.
  • 12-07-2004, 12:45 AM
    Steph_B
    Re: an autumn hike
    I actually looked again at the first pic. I played a little bit with it in PS. I got a much nicer result by croping the out of focus area at the bottom of the pic, as well as a big chunk on the left to respect the 24x36 format. I then changed the Master Hue (+13) and boosted the red saturation (+20). I really liked the result... The hue change really improved the color rendition

    .... but once again we are talking about MY screen and MY eyes!

    I hope you don't mind me playing!

    Cheers,

    Steph.
  • 12-07-2004, 06:43 PM
    Seb
    Re: an autumn hike
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by CaraRose
    Hi Seb,

    I like the first one, but there the soft focus around the edges is a little distracting, especially with the darker (leaves?) at the top.

    I really like the light on the tree trunks in the second, and the lines in the photo.

    Hello CaraRose,

    I am glad to hear about you. Thank you for your comments. You are right about the first picture, there are leaves at the top. I guess that I have tried to craft a "marcro" kind of shot unconsciously (which obviously won't work with a 28-75mm zoom).

    I too like how the second picture turned out. I have been searching such a spot for quite a while.

    Seb
  • 12-07-2004, 06:55 PM
    Seb
    Re: an autumn hike
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Steph_B
    I actually looked again at the first pic. I played a little bit with it in PS. I got a much nicer result by croping the out of focus area at the bottom of the pic, as well as a big chunk on the left to respect the 24x36 format. I then changed the Master Hue (+13) and boosted the red saturation (+20). I really liked the result... The hue change really improved the color rendition

    .... but once again we are talking about MY screen and MY eyes!

    I hope you don't mind me playing!

    Cheers,

    Steph.

    Hello Stephane,

    There is no need to apologize for the first picture! Beside, obsessive is good lol!!
    I take good note of your comments. About the colours, I don't know if the camera can be fooled by a strong color. The leaf is rather odd, almost pink.... Quite frankly I can't remember how the leaf was for real. I do remember that there was a lot of strange leaves all arround though. Some trees in the forest were sick.

    I don't know if I ever get the chance to go back to that specific place during winter, this is way out of Montreal... I could easily see the same scene in the snow that's for sure.

    On a side note, I was born, raised and I am still based in Montreal. I love my city and I am not sure that I would like to live elsewhere (call me Woody Allen lol) but I sure like to travel.

    ciao

    Seb