• 11-02-2008, 05:17 PM
    Canon_Bob
    Reddish Egret - To flash, or not to flash...That is the question
    Captured these few yesterday morning out in the exact same spot where I took the images that are in that competition. When this Reddish Egert happened along, the light was kind of "unpredictable" depending on the area he moved into, so a bit of fill flash was an option. Now, unfortunately, this particular bird is transitioning into breeding plumage, so he looks a bit ratty right now. But, he still made for a good practice subject. Can you tell which image(s) I used the flash on? No cheating....don't look at the EXIF until AFTER you post :-)

    After you all guess for awhile, I'll explain my flash settings and why...

    http://catcheroflight.smugmug.com/ph...1_qQxKV-X2.jpg

    http://catcheroflight.smugmug.com/ph...2_SaEep-X2.jpg

    http://catcheroflight.smugmug.com/ph...2_nScQ6-X2.jpg
  • 11-02-2008, 06:02 PM
    A.M.D.A.
    Re: Reddish Egret - To flash, or not to flash...That is the question
    Was flash used for the last two?

    But then - I'm not %100 sure...:confused:
  • 11-02-2008, 07:00 PM
    paulnj
    Re: Reddish Egret - To flash, or not to flash...That is the question
    All 3........ BB -2 EV is my guess. Proper fill flash is not noticable if done right.
  • 11-03-2008, 08:07 AM
    scott-devon
    Re: Reddish Egret - To flash, or not to flash...That is the question
    I'll guess the first two..
  • 11-04-2008, 05:28 PM
    Canon_Bob
    Re: Reddish Egret - To flash, or not to flash...That is the question
    ....And the answer is....Only number two was taken with a flash. Although....Number three was set for flash compulsory mode - the flash did not fire!

    As Paul pointed out, fill flash done right should be undetectable.

    This image below of a Great Crested Flycatcher was captured under conditions I usually avoid altogether - a completely backlit bird in the fog! I took it this morning just to show how a flash can make something of nothing when needed. Very important to have in the bag....but even more important that you practice with it and learn how to use it. BTW - Paul's guess was pretty close on HOW I use my flash. I usually push my exposure as much as I can to allow the aperture to gather the most light, and then throttle the flash back at least one stop. So, number 2 above was at -1 EV on the flash, but +2/3 EV on the camera! The result is as much natural light as possibe, but with just enough flash assist to make the image look right. ALWAYS use your histogram with flash photography just like when shooting normally. It will tell you when you jsut nuked the bird :D

    http://catcheroflight.smugmug.com/ph...2_vzUYz-X2.jpg
  • 11-04-2008, 05:39 PM
    paulnj
    Re: Reddish Egret - To flash, or not to flash...That is the question
    I knowq that siuation all too well and you pulled it of like a master.
  • 11-04-2008, 06:20 PM
    Dylan8i
    Re: Reddish Egret - To flash, or not to flash...That is the question
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Canon_Bob
    ....And the answer is....Only number two was taken with a flash. Although....Number three was set for flash compulsory mode - the flash did not fire!

    As Paul pointed out, fill flash done right should be undetectable.

    This image below of a Great Crested Flycatcher was captured under conditions I usually avoid altogether - a completely backlit bird in the fog! I took it this morning just to show how a flash can make something of nothing when needed. Very important to have in the bag....but even more important that you practice with it and learn how to use it. BTW - Paul's guess was pretty close on HOW I use my flash. I usually push my exposure as much as I can to allow the aperture to gather the most light, and then throttle the flash back at least one stop. So, number 2 above was at -1 EV on the flash, but +2/3 EV on the camera! The result is as much natural light as possibe, but with just enough flash assist to make the image look right. ALWAYS use your histogram with flash photography just like when shooting normally. It will tell you when you jsut nuked the bird :D

    maybe you can post histograms (with pics) of good and bad ones? that would probbably help alot of people understand whats going on. or confirm what others are thinking (myself).
  • 11-04-2008, 06:58 PM
    Canon_Bob
    Re: Reddish Egret - To flash, or not to flash...That is the question
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Dylan8i
    maybe you can post histograms (with pics) of good and bad ones? that would probbably help alot of people understand whats going on. or confirm what others are thinking (myself).

    Great idea! I'll see if I can figure out a way to copy and paste a histogram out of photoshop. What I'll do is post a series on reading the histogram. Canon and Nikon histograms are slightly different, but the principles and techniques are the same. Honestly, it's so easy you'll probably smack yourself in the forehead like a V8 commercial when I show you! People definitely overcomplicates this one, critical item that is such a valuable tool.
  • 11-04-2008, 07:10 PM
    Dylan8i
    Re: Reddish Egret - To flash, or not to flash...That is the question
    well yeah i have a feeling i pretty much know im doing it right. but its always good to make sure, and im positive it will help alot of others.