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    A new leopard gecko

    Just sharing a quick grab shot of my newest addition to my gecko collection. He needs to settle in after his long flight across the country last night, so I snapped a quick image and put him in his new home.

    Can anyone tell me the morph (almo/ erik?)
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    Re: A new leopard gecko

    Quote Originally Posted by paulnj
    Can anyone tell me the morph (almo/ erik?)
    Umm, I can at least venture a guess.

    It's an amelanistic of some sort, since it hasn't darkened with age, I assume a rainwater strain. I haven't seen any of the bell strain as adults, they came out just as I was getting out of leos. It is possible that Bell amels don't darken with age either.

    Am I close?
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    Re: A new leopard gecko

    your close, but this is a hard one

    It's a mack snow tremper albino male who weighs 48 grams and is nearly 8 months old.
    I really need a rack since people are starting to ask me to take in unwanted pets now too.
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    Re: A new leopard gecko

    Quote Originally Posted by paulnj
    your close, but this is a hard one

    It's a mack snow tremper albino male who weighs 48 grams and is nearly 8 months old.
    I really need a rack since people are starting to ask me to take in unwanted pets now too.
    hehehe, I feel old now..what the HECK is a mack snow??? When I stopped breeding leos, "snow" was only a dream - I've only recently heard of the mack snows, I understand that it is a codominant gene - neat stuff.

    I know what you mean by becoming a dumping ground for leftover herps, and you can't go wrong with one of those racks from boaphile - I think they call them rhinorax or something like that. I could stand on mine, it would be just fine. That, with a helix thermostat, and you are ready to take on the world! or at least another dozen or so uninvited guests. I would recommend the shoebox size for baby snakes, and the next size up for adult leopard geckos - I have a dozen fattails in a shoebox rack now, and the cages are just too small to do anything except maintain them, I just can't fit a lay box and a water dish at the same time :mad2:

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    Re: A new leopard gecko

    Erik, I have looked at every rack made on the net and need a rack that doesn't cost $600 and will hold 10 - 32 qt containers. I refuse to crowd out my little buddies. I will build my own, wire up 11 flexwatt belly heat and get a helix for sure. It will be 3' X 3' and 2' deep. I am going to put shutoffs on each level as to not heat empty spaces too.

    Mack snows are said to be co-dom, but actually they are really incomplete dominance so the experts say The het form (snow) shows itself, why the homo form is called a super snow. That happens throughout the herp species (especially ball pythons)

    Incomplete dom can be summed up quite easy for those who are following.....

    Red flower pollenated by a white flower(if incomplete dom) would give you a pink flower(mix of both parents)
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    Re: A new leopard gecko

    sounds like a great rack plan, I considered building my own, but i'd rather pay someone else to I've spent too many nights awake (poorly) building cages - I had a large corallus hortulanus get out and end up in a neighbors apartment...I'm not sure if you are familiar with that genus, I think they are collectively called the neotropical treeboa group, but they are nastier than any other snake that has ever lived - just what I need to be an ambassador to my poor neighbors!! Between that and fishing monitor lizards out from underneath the couch on a weekly basis, and I am almost totally manufactured cages these days...

    interesting about the snow gene, so the hetXwild type (wild typexsnow) results in (heterozygous)snow progeny? how much of the wild type pattern is retained? Is the snowness ontogenic, as the color change in a wild type leo is? what do super snows look like?
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    Re: A new leopard gecko

    I have studied up on building a rack and should be fine(they will be too tight if anything, not too loose) and yes, I know what a amazon treeboa is(mine bit me far too often).

    Yes snows change patern as they age(as all leos do), but the white base color doesn't change(hence snow). Super snows do not from what I see though.

    http://vmsherp.com/LCLeopardNames.htm
    scroll down to mack snow

    http://www.vmsherp.com/4SaleLeopards.htm
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