Albino Turkey

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  • 11-09-2007, 07:29 PM
    Knight
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    Albino Turkey
    Heres a first for me ,im just sorry i did not take the time to add my 1.4X . This is the best crop i could come up with they were a good distance from me.
  • 11-09-2007, 08:03 PM
    mn shutterbug
    Re: Albino Turkey
    That is a heck of a find. I had never heard of one of these before. There must be albinos of every mammal. Also, it looks a little larger than the rest. Great capture.
  • 11-09-2007, 11:03 PM
    WTP07
    Re: Albino Turkey
    ummm....a Turkey isn't a mammal. I see what you are getting at though. Albino or Leucistic? I am sure that one of our experts here can set us straight.
  • 11-09-2007, 11:08 PM
    Sushigaijin
    Re: Albino Turkey
    Could be leucistic, although my guess would be a hereditary light color pattern.

    Turkeys are reptiles.
  • 11-10-2007, 04:54 AM
    slayer7124
    Re: Albino Turkey
    very nice capture. first time seeing one for me too
  • 11-10-2007, 06:04 AM
    AmberC
    Re: Albino Turkey
    Turkey's are reptiles??!! Ok.. I had to look that up because I've never heard it before. But everything I am finding says they are mammals. Can you show me a link or something that says otherwise? (just trying to learn here)

    Very cool pattern!
    Amber
  • 11-10-2007, 07:44 AM
    Jaedon
    Re: Albino Turkey
    I never knew birds could be mammals.

    Thats is a cool shot of one Ugly bird lol. Although I would have to agree with leucistic as in my mind if it were albino there would be more pink than blue... yes, no?
  • 11-10-2007, 07:44 AM
    WTP07
    Re: Albino Turkey
    Mammals are known for their 'Mammary glands", ie milk producing breasts, as well as bearing live young (except for that wild platypus) and having hair, not feathers.

    Link here: Mammals

    Besides, everyone knows that Turkeys are invertebrate amphibians.

    R.
  • 11-10-2007, 09:48 AM
    AmberC
    Re: Albino Turkey
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by WTP07
    Mammals are known for their 'Mammary glands", ie milk producing breasts, as well as bearing live young (except for that wild platypus) and having hair, not feathers.

    Link here: Mammals

    Besides, everyone knows that Turkeys are invertebrate amphibians.

    R.


    Turkey's are classified as: Galliformes: Galliformes is an order of birds containing the turkeys, grouse, chickens, quails, and pheasants. About 256 species are found worldwide They may not be mammals, but they are most certainly not reptiles. They are a species of their own. Aves. Birds.

    Amphibians:
    Amphibians (class Amphibia; from Greek αμφις "both" and βιος "life") are a taxon of animals that include all living tetrapods (four-legged vertebrates) that do not have amniotic eggs, are ectothermic (term for the animals whose body heat is regulated by the external environment; previously known as cold-blooded), and generally spend part of their time on land. Most amphibians do not have the adaptations to an entirely terrestrial existence found in most other modern tetrapods (amniotes). There are around 6,200 described, living species of amphibians. The study of amphibians and reptiles is known as herpetology. Amphibians are able to breathe through their skin.
    from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amphibian

    Amber
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galliformes
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reptile
  • 11-10-2007, 09:56 AM
    AmberC
    Re: Albino Turkey
    I also want to add that just because the turkey is a lighter color does not classify it as albino.

    Albino is not having the proper pigmentation.. an albino anything will have red eyes. I cannot tell from this picture whether or not this bird is albino. It is possible and my husband found something on a canadian forum about some turkey's have a 'grey phase' and that there are albino turkeys, but they have to have the proper eye color to be classified as albino.

    I have owned albino lovebirds, cockatiels and known albino horses. All had red eye pigmentation.

    I think most have never seen a wild turkey of that color so thats a really cool find, but I'm not sure it albino.

    Amber
  • 11-10-2007, 10:15 AM
    mn shutterbug
    Re: Albino Turkey
    What did I start here? I'm so embarrassed. :blush2: I know birds aren't mammals, but I also don't believe they can be classified at reptiles or amphibians, either. :rolleyes: Lets just call the turkeys, fowl, OK? Anyway, it's a strange colored bird, and a nice capture.
  • 11-10-2007, 11:39 AM
    Knight
    Re: Albino Turkey
    LMAO hehe :) Think this turkey only has a lack of pigmentation , But if you do a search on about.com or even google you can find pictures of what people call Albino Turkeys .Pink eyes and all :)
  • 11-10-2007, 11:52 AM
    Jaedon
    Re: Albino Turkey
    I think personally that the picture was great.... but the discussion that followed surely shows that many people simply do not speak sarcasm fluently...especially in type lol.
  • 11-10-2007, 12:26 PM
    AmberC
    Re: Albino Turkey
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Jaedon
    I think personally that the picture was great.... but the discussion that followed surely shows that many people simply do not speak sarcasm fluently...especially in type lol.

    If that was sarcasm.. no I didn't get it.. I wasn't trying to start anything in any way and if I was offensive I apologize. I even had my hubby come read it to tell me if he thought it was a joke. He didn't pick that up either.

    Amber
  • 11-10-2007, 12:46 PM
    Jaedon
    Re: Albino Turkey
    Ooops.... I'm sorry Amber. You weren't offensive in anyway. That's not the way I intended my comment. I am almost 90% sarcasm so read anything I post with tongue in cheek. And since I talk that way most of my friends understand when they read my messages.... I forget that when I am posting on forums and I occasionally get people taken aback at my comments before I have to back pedal and explain myself. I'm used to it lol.
  • 11-10-2007, 01:24 PM
    WTP07
    Re: Albino Turkey
    Umm...ditto to what Jay said...I was be facetious...sarcastic even...but in a fun way...I wasn't trying to make fun of anyone...so my apologies if I was taken seriously. I'd have a hard time being serious about a heart attack. Of course turkeys aren't reptiles, amphibians or mammals. They are really tasty though.

    Cheers,

    Randy.
  • 11-10-2007, 03:05 PM
    AmberC
    Re: Albino Turkey
    :thumbsup: Got it now :)

    Amber
  • 11-10-2007, 03:56 PM
    barb_48
    Re: Albino Turkey
    Nice shots, I never seem to have my camera with me when I come across some of our wild turkeys. Last week when I was driving home, one by one they flew across the road, yes I said flew, short distance of course and low. I kind of picture one of them flying into the side of a truck, not funny I know but it would of been a sight to see.
  • 11-10-2007, 09:39 PM
    WTP07
    Re: Albino Turkey
    Turkeys actually fly quite well for short distances...and they can run like the dickens. (I know...making up words again)...I have several shots of wild turkeys...none of them clear or unobstructed. These are nice shots and the whitish bird is very cool. I wonder if the other turkeys ostracize him for his colour...can turkeys see colour? I am sure some of my hunting buddies could tell me. Nice capture anyway Glenn.
  • 11-11-2007, 01:03 AM
    Sushigaijin
    Re: Albino Turkey
    I don't know about the rest of you turkeys, but I wasn't being sarcastic. Turkeys, and all birds, are indeed reptiles.

    In plain text:

    Quote:

    Reptilia, presented as a Class in our classification, includes turtles (Testudines), snakes and lizards (Lepidosauria), crocodiles and their relatives (Crocodilia), and birds (Aves), as well as a number of extinct groups ... Why are birds included within Reptilia, and how are they and other members of this group related to each other? Both the fossil record and comparative analyses of living species (especially those based on molecular evidence) convincingly establish that, among living reptiles, birds and crocodiles are more closely related to each other than they are to lepidosaurs (snakes and lizards). The position of turtles is more controversial; in the past they were thought to represent an early branch of Reptilia. Recent evidence suggests they may have a special relationship with crocodiles and birds. Because birds clearly arise from within the groups we traditionally consider to be reptiles, not separately from them, most systematists now formally consider birds (Aves) to be a subgroup within Reptilia.
    http://animaldiversity.ummz.umich.ed.../Reptilia.html

    And from my least favorite source ever, wikipedia. Just follow the line to the right on the tree.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reptile#Taxonomy
  • 11-11-2007, 08:16 AM
    mn shutterbug
    Re: Albino Turkey
    Well, I'll be darned. Who would of thunk that a bird could be reptilian?
  • 11-11-2007, 08:23 AM
    Loupey
    Re: Albino Turkey
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by barb_48
    Nice shots, I never seem to have my camera with me when I come across some of our wild turkeys. Last week when I was driving home, one by one they flew across the road, yes I said flew, short distance of course and low. I kind of picture one of them flying into the side of a truck, not funny I know but it would of been a sight to see.

    On the news recently was a video shot from a police camera where a deer, running at full tilt, is clearly shown running into the side of a moving car (not the other way around :p ). The video then was immediately cut - my guess is that the deer died from its own impact or was instantly immobilized.

    Barb, I know what you mean about missing some amazing sights. I was at a unfamiliar park many years ago and while standing in a small clearing, I heard something behind me and as I turned around, two deer came running out of the tall grass. They saw me and veered off just enough so that they passed me at only 15' at full stride. I could hear their breaths and the sounds of their hooves on the grass in an otherwise perfectly silent and still environment. Something I will never forget - which is the most important - but still, an image to share would have been pretty cool too :p
  • 11-11-2007, 08:24 AM
    Loupey
    Re: Albino Turkey
    Knight - excellent find - kudos for having your camera! And thanks for sharing it with us.

    A sight I've never seen that's for sure.
  • 11-11-2007, 07:39 PM
    paulnj
    Re: Albino Turkey
    Yes, birds are evolved lizards of sort from millions of years ago. Since they don't actually have mammary glands(though doves do produce a milky substance so I was told), they aren't a mammal persay.

    BTW, that's a piedbald or leucistic turkey if you ask me due to the black pigment. Albinos have no black pigment :wink:


    Great find and a nice image anyway you look at it!