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Lava Lamp
11-22-2005, 08:30 AM
Is this a juvenille?

Lava Lamp
11-22-2005, 10:44 AM
Cropped for detail.

mjs1973
11-22-2005, 03:32 PM
Cropped for detail.

Looks like a Sandpiper to me. Perhaps a Least Sandpiper. Am I close Paul?

Lava Lamp
11-22-2005, 04:42 PM
Looks like a Sandpiper to me. Perhaps a Least Sandpiper. Am I close Paul?

I'm thinking Spotted Sandpiper.

mjs1973
11-22-2005, 04:50 PM
I'm thinking Spotted Sandpiper.

Ah, yes, I think you are correct. I can't see any spots on it's belly, but perhaps they lose them with winter plumage? Come to think of it, I belive I posted a spotted in the first ID thread.

paulnj
11-22-2005, 05:35 PM
SPOTTED SANDPIPER. It appears to be adult non breeding plumage to me, but may very well be a first winter plumage bird. They only have spotted breasts in breeding plumage BTW.

paulnj
11-23-2005, 04:33 PM
Hello......

Though I split it crudely. this is the new ID thread :)

The first locked, so I wanted to split this off before we have the same problem :)

mjs1973
11-24-2005, 03:51 AM
Good idea Paul. Is the first ID thread still accessible anywhere? I was looking for it the other day to review the sandpiper that I had posted in it, but I couldn't find it. I assume that it was taken down for good, but thought I would ask to be sure.

paulnj
11-24-2005, 05:28 PM
Good idea Paul. Is the first ID thread still accessible anywhere? I was looking for it the other day to review the sandpiper that I had posted in it, but I couldn't find it. I assume that it was taken down for good, but thought I would ask to be sure.

Someday PJ will get around to cutting it into pieces and moving it here?????

Who knows, maybe MY MOD PROFILE will magicly appear too ;)

jfelbab
11-25-2005, 09:16 AM
Found this fellow on my deck railing a bit ago. Sorry for the poor shot but I had to shoot through the window and screen. He was only there for a moment. Not sure what type of hawk this is.
http://homepage.mac.com/jfelbab/.Pictures/Photo%20Album%20Pictures/2005-11-25%2010.07.52%20-0800/Image-4CAEB94C5DDE11DA.jpg
http://homepage.mac.com/jfelbab/.Pictures/Photo%20Album%20Pictures/2005-11-25%2010.07.52%20-0800/Image-4CAEF0885DDE11DA.jpg

walterick
11-25-2005, 10:24 AM
Okay Paul I finally have another shot for ya! Unfortunately I don't have good luck cropping from my Coolpix images but here's a little guy taken yesterday in Phoenix. Taken at 105mm, he was pretty brave ;)

paulnj
11-26-2005, 07:01 AM
Found this fellow on my deck railing a bit ago. Sorry for the poor shot but I had to shoot through the window and screen. He was only there for a moment. Not sure what type of hawk this is.


It's a cooper's hawk .

Where in the US do you live might I ask. I am just curious because I help study raptor migration through NJ.

paulnj
11-26-2005, 07:08 AM
finally ;)

Northern mockingbird

jfelbab
11-26-2005, 07:43 AM
It's a cooper's hawk .

Where in the US do you live might I ask. I am just curious because I help study raptor migration through NJ.

Thanks for the ID. I live in a rural, natural-wooded area west of Milwaukee, WI.

What was giving me trouble was the white spots on the back of the wing feathers and the warm brown color. I was thinking it might have been an immature Red-Tail as we have lots of them around our area all summer.

paulnj
11-26-2005, 07:55 AM
The tail banding is WAY to broud for any BUTEO(the family the RT hawks are in )

Your Cooper's is a juvenile BTW and very well may stay the winter in your area as long as the winter does get TOO severe ;)

chicago
11-26-2005, 10:01 AM
a cedar waxwing

Photo Dad
11-26-2005, 12:13 PM
Cropped for detail.

This looks like a spotted sandpiper in winter feathers to me. It doesn't look like a juvenile. My source is "All the Birds of North America," published by Harper Perennial.
Photo Dad

paulnj
11-26-2005, 04:55 PM
Right you are P Diddy ;)

That is a good general book BTW.

paulnj
11-26-2005, 05:00 PM
a cedar waxwing

YES it is :D

Lava Lamp
11-26-2005, 05:06 PM
Happy Thanksgiving!

I shot this in NYC on the Hudson River side in Battery Park a few days ago.

Lava Lamp
11-26-2005, 05:12 PM
While I didn't go "birding," I kept my eye out for birds in NYC -- I was hoping to see a Peregrine Falcon, but saw lots of these in different colors, plus lots of house sparrows and a starling or two.

Lava Lamp
11-26-2005, 07:09 PM
While I didn't go "birding," I kept my eye out for birds in NYC -- I was hoping to see a Peregrine Falcon, but saw lots of these in different colors, plus lots of house sparrows and a starling or two.

Here's one other bird from NYC. Photo credit note: my daughter took this one, but she was sitting on my shoulders, so we're kind of a photo team.

paulnj
11-26-2005, 07:51 PM
OMG..... that's a BIGBIRD!! :)

paulnj
11-26-2005, 08:02 PM
While I didn't go "birding," I kept my eye out for birds in NYC -- I was hoping to see a Peregrine Falcon, but saw lots of these in different colors, plus lots of house sparrows and a starling or two.

Nice ringbilled gull there!

Your pidgeon is also .... nice ;)

As for finding a peregrine in NYC, you would be better off finding a vast open tidal swamp in your area. Remember that peregrines are cliff nesters in the tundra, but I always see them hunting open fields or COASTAL TIDAL FLATS :) Most have migrated past NJ, but I did find a peregrine(kestrel and merlin too) on the farm lands just down the road today. Peregrine is a very good find inland in NJ any time of year, but in winter(it's winter to me and the birds) is an especially good find.

Lava Lamp
11-27-2005, 02:27 PM
Check out those nice green legs.

Lava Lamp
11-27-2005, 02:30 PM
'noher one I don't normally see locally.

Lava Lamp
11-27-2005, 02:44 PM
Really far away...

paulnj
11-27-2005, 04:31 PM
Check out those nice green legs.

JUVENILE little blue heron :)

paulnj
11-27-2005, 04:32 PM
snowy egret with a tricolor heron behind it , tricolored heron and a juvenile white ibis :)

paulnj
11-27-2005, 04:33 PM
'noher one I don't normally see locally.

WHERE did you find a male hooded merganser?

Lava Lamp
11-27-2005, 05:30 PM
WHERE did you find a male hooded merganser?

There were three flying over and then landing in a salt marsh. This was a pelican out there today, too, which is something I never see there. It's usually wading birds with raptors overhead.

By the way, does his bill look right to you? He seems to be missing the hooked tip. (Maybe it's just the angle, or maybe its in the water.)

Lava Lamp
11-27-2005, 05:35 PM
Maybe separated from this group...

paulnj
11-27-2005, 06:24 PM
Well it is a young bird(first winter), so maybe it's horn thingy is not formed yet?

But yes, that bill looks very odd indeed!

mjs1973
12-04-2005, 03:16 PM
Found these guys while walking the dogs this afternoon. Not nearly as nice at the one posted by Chicago, but I was able to ID them all by myself!!! Ok, I had a little help from a new field guide I picked up yesterday. :)

paulnj
12-04-2005, 04:13 PM
Yes they are cedar waxwings, but you have an odd orange tail varient one there :) That is caused by eating too many berries with red/orange color ;)

almo
12-05-2005, 08:45 AM
Ok, duh...I know, but i want an I.D. for the hell of it...

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a183/almoagain/Birds/1456145013.jpg

mjs1973
12-05-2005, 03:53 PM
Yes they are cedar waxwings, but you have an odd orange tail varient one there :) That is caused by eating too many berries with red/orange color ;)

I belive that is a sub species know as the Fecal Feather Waxwing. :D

I read in my guide book that these birds have been known become so intoxicated from eating overripe fruit that they can't fly.

My book also says that the there is debate over what the "wax" tips are for. This is what my book says: "The purpose of the 'red wax' is long-debated, but younger birds do not have it and older birds that do often choose each other as mates and produce more young than the younger pairs." So if that is ONE side of the argument, what is the other side?

paulnj
12-05-2005, 04:34 PM
no crap on that tail, the berry consumption causes the orange/ red pigment in the tail feathers :)

I have seen robins fall over from eating aged berries. the berries ferment into wine ;)

almo
12-05-2005, 08:42 PM
I have found that I have a fondness for shots of large birds in flight. Clear blue skies with nothing but a bird on the wing. *sigh*

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a183/almoagain/Birds/ducks99027.jpg

srobb
12-06-2005, 12:12 PM
I realize they may not be good shots. Had to crop more than I like; did the best I could with my 80-200. Seems my first two did not take. :mad: :mad: Guess they did when I edited the first time. :o

mjs1973
12-06-2005, 04:15 PM
I realize they may not be good shots. Had to crop more than I like; did the best I could with my 80-200. Seems my first two did not take. :mad: :mad: Guess they did when I edited the first time. :o

These are just my guesses, but I'm sure Paul will know for sure. :)

1. Tufted Titmouse
2. Cormorant, perhaps a Double-cested (the one perched on the stick)
3. Black-capped Chickadee

paulnj
12-06-2005, 04:53 PM
Mike is correct, but I can't tell if those are mallards or not with the DC cormorant.

paulnj
12-06-2005, 04:57 PM
I have found that I have a fondness for shots of large birds in flight. Clear blue skies with nothing but a bird on the wing. *sigh*

You do know that you have just posted the first BLACK vulture of the ID threads ;)

srobb
12-07-2005, 11:36 AM
A shot from a local lake I went to last month.

paulnj
12-07-2005, 09:11 PM
Coots... ah winter is coming ;)

mdwsr
12-08-2005, 06:10 AM
Fantastic idea for a sticky. I hope it's okay to post two here.

I think the first is a red-tailed hawk, can anyone confirm?
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v505/mdwsr/birds/post_redb_raptor/9.jpg

I have no clue what this is:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v505/mdwsr/birds/unidentified/birdiehide.jpg

mjs1973
12-10-2005, 02:53 PM
I found this guy today while walking the dogs.

jfelbab
12-10-2005, 03:53 PM
Fantastic idea for a sticky. I hope it's okay to post two here.

I think the first is a red-tailed hawk, can anyone confirm?
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v505/mdwsr/birds/post_redb_raptor/9.jpg

I have no clue what this is:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v505/mdwsr/birds/unidentified/birdiehide.jpg
Love the Hawk photo. The second looks like a Junco to me. Not a pro on birds though.

jfelbab
12-10-2005, 04:00 PM
I found this guy today while walking the dogs.

A Common Flicker. I have a few hanging around my feeder.
http://homepage.mac.com/jfelbab/.Pictures/Photo%20Album%20Pictures/2005-11-05%2011.53.46%20-0800/Image-91CAF51C4E3511DA.jpg

paulnj
12-10-2005, 06:09 PM
The hawk is a juvenile redtailed and the second is a dark eyed junco.

But Jim , your's is a red bellied woodpecker, what is that on the back side of the feeder ;)

jfelbab
12-10-2005, 06:31 PM
The hawk is a juvenile redtailed and the second is a dark eyed junco.

But Jim , your's is a red bellied woodpecker, what is that on the back side of the feeder ;)
Right you are. I totally missed that id. Thanks for setting me straight.

The other is probably a purple finch. I have scores of finches around.

http://homepage.mac.com/jfelbab/.Pictures/Photo%20Album%20Pictures/2005-11-05%2011.53.46%20-0800/Image-91CABE894E3511DA.jpg

paulnj
12-10-2005, 07:34 PM
They all look like house finches to me.

Purple finches have a pointy beak and DO NOT have an eye ring like most house finces do. The male house finch is very red in the head and chest, while the male purple finch is DEEP RED in the head/ chest with duller red running through most of the other parts of the body.


Here is a female purple finch, the males never get close enough to me when I have my camera ready :(

jsmith75
12-10-2005, 08:02 PM
What type of hawk is it? Though it might be a harrier. This picture was taken in western Kentucky.

paulnj
12-10-2005, 08:23 PM
It's a young Cooper's hawk.

mjs1973
12-11-2005, 07:46 AM
The male didn't want to stick around for the photo shoot, so all I got was the lady of the nest.

paulnj
12-11-2005, 01:09 PM
There you go. Though cardinals are fairly common, I don't have too many images of them.

mjs1973
12-11-2005, 01:43 PM
I think this is my first shot of one. They are quite common, but they don't seem to like to sit in one place too long. I started adding some saflower seed to my feeders this weekend in hopes to attract some now that we have a good 4"-6" of snow on the ground.

jfelbab
12-11-2005, 02:06 PM
We have a lot of Cardinals around here. I love watching the male feed the female. I get a lot of them at my tube feeder with black-oil sunflower seeds. I believe they prefer other feeder types but they make do. Here is a female at the feeder with a Goldfinch I believe. My home backs up to a natural wooded area and I get a great assortment of birds. I don't know a lot about identification yet but I'm learning, and enjoying.

http://homepage.mac.com/jfelbab/.Pictures/Photo%20Album%20Pictures/2005-11-05%2011.53.46%20-0800/Image-91CBA0D44E3511DA.jpg

paulnj
12-11-2005, 05:41 PM
"I don't know a lot about identification yet but I'm learning, and enjoying."

Those words are music to my ears! ENJOYMENT of your subject matter is KEY to producing images of quality and furthering your knowledge!



you're correct! I will surely help you to ID birds better.

spring plumage birds from texas as they migrate back, try searching Alan Murphy photography. His images have dropped my jaw for YEARS!!

jfelbab
12-11-2005, 07:01 PM
Those really are beautiful photos. I like the way he has diffused the background which accents the bird. I need to learn how to use PhotoShop too I guess. I hope an old dog like me can still learn a few new tricks. :)

I'll be taking a spin down to Cape Coral soon and I'll see what I can find to shoot down there. I appreciate your offer to help me with ID. I find watching birds is really a nice way to pass a little time and relax.

If I become a pest let me know.

Thanks for all your help.

paulnj
12-11-2005, 07:41 PM
Cape coral huh ;)

Let's see.... on tuesday my GF's brother is going there to see granny. I will see if he can find a few BURROWING OWLS in her neighborhood . If so, I will get you rough addresses. They are pretty easy to locate too. Alot of the sites were they nest have a perch set up near the burrow(they live under ground) The nest along driveways and use mailboxes as a perch, they nest on street corners and use fire hydrants too.

From Cape coral I would advise you to try sanibel/ captiva(a few hurricanes have smashed those islands since I was last there though) Ding Darling(on sanibel island) was a great place for birds, but I hear it isn't as good. Isn't as good still should produce enough birds to see anyway. EAGLES, OSPREYS, WADERS, PELICANS, GATORS, RACCOONS.......

srobb
12-12-2005, 08:29 AM
What type of hawk is it? Though it might be a harrier. This picture was taken in western Kentucky.


Looks like the one I saw Friday on my way to Lexington to pick up my 2x teleconverter. Then saw a redtail swooping down, but lost him in the tree line. :(

Knight
12-12-2005, 03:30 PM
These guys are becoming regulars , there letting me go in closer now.:)The Jay loves peanuts and the other loves my home made feeder .I used a fire log and drilled holes in it then packed the holes with suet .

mjs1973
12-12-2005, 03:43 PM
Great idea for a easy to make feeder Knight! I haven't picked up any peanuts for my winter mix yet, but it's on my list. I saw a Downy the other day, but didn't have my camera with me. :(

ken1953
12-13-2005, 04:30 PM
Hello all...
I was outside a little while ago, shooting some icicles intertwined in my christmas lights, when something flew overhead. I had just set my Nikon CP 8400 to "Sport" mode to try to stabilize my photos a bit. I jumped on the chance to shoot this bird all the time thinking, wow, what luck...I'm set for a sport setting, I should get a nice pic.... :-( well...1 out of 3 came out recognizable, I think...I spent 3 years hoping for a shot like this with my Kodak, which would have caught this bird clearly at this range, only about 20' above me. Anyway...here it is...the second pic is cropped as close as I can get it without causing an unrecognizable photo. The first photo is so that anyone who can tell me how to set my camera settings to prevent this type of problem in the future, can see what I got.
Anyway, here they are...

paulnj
12-13-2005, 05:18 PM
Well your bird is an adult redtailed hawk. Remember I ID hawks at 2 miles from a pair of 10X binos, so this is an easy one for me. Eventhough your hawk is blue(holy white balance batman) I can see every field mark

ken1953
12-13-2005, 06:29 PM
Well your bird is an adult redtailed hawk. Remember I ID hawks at 2 miles from a pair of 10X binos, so this is an easy one for me. Eventhough your hawk is blue(holy white balance batman) I can see every field mark
Thanx Paul..."holy WB, NOISE, ISO, APETURE...." Actually, I thought the first one would come out....but not so...I had just turned to the scene mode for sport, when I glimpsed him over my head...so I didn't even know what I was shooting...all I knew was that it was a hawk of some sort...hehe..I chased it down the street, but lost it in some trees. I got a ton of snow in shoes...had no socks on as I had only stepped out for a few seconds...until I saw the hawk...haha..
Anyway...I'll say it again...YOU ARE GOOD!
Ken

jfelbab
12-13-2005, 06:40 PM
Anyone have a clue as to what this is?

http://homepage.mac.com/jfelbab/.Pictures/Photo%20Album%20Pictures/2005-12-12%2010.09.09%20-0800/Image-48DB40696B3A11DA.jpg

paulnj
12-13-2005, 06:59 PM
It's a vulture... as in TRUE VULTURE from a non US country IMHO.

jfelbab
12-13-2005, 07:25 PM
Maybe that explains why this was nearby.

http://homepage.mac.com/jfelbab/.Pictures/Photo%20Album%20Pictures/2005-12-13%2020.21.28%20-0800/Image-017048696C5911DA.jpg

paulnj
12-13-2005, 07:30 PM
Where did you shoot these? Look at the lower mandible on that herbavore... MY GOD that looks like a cow !!

Lava Lamp
12-14-2005, 01:25 PM
I don't think we've had one of these in any of the ID posts. Thought it was a Willet for a moment, but don't think it is...

paulnj
12-14-2005, 02:57 PM
It's a yellowlegs, hence the YELLOW legs ;) I am not too good at the lesser/ greater ID, but I would say it's a GREATER YELLOWLEGS.

Knight
12-14-2005, 04:23 PM
One from today dont know what he is , but im almost sure hes not a Great Gray owl.

So Paulnj ?

paulnj
12-14-2005, 05:56 PM
YOU ROCK!!!!!

Though I have seen a decent number of them in Florida, NJ, NY, and even Ontario. I do not have but one image of a.... BARRED OWL. Your's is even in the open, which BTW is odd in itself! This Owl has mostlikely been forced to relocate and feed by day due to snow cover.

Knight
12-14-2005, 06:12 PM
Kinda figured it was not a Great Gray by the color of its eyes. Are these owls territorial Paulnj ? Any chance this guy is gonna stick around for the winter ? If so i may be able to get a few better shots of Him or Her :)

paulnj
12-14-2005, 06:25 PM
Yes they are territorial , as are all bird species, but only on breeding grounds usually. This owl will stay in the area if food supply is abundant and people don't bother it too much(they are secretive and like dense swampy conifer growths from my experience in summer atleast). Not that trying to photograph it periodicly is bad, but constant pestering by people will make it move on after awhile.

Good luck !

Lava Lamp
12-16-2005, 06:02 AM
But now I'm not so sure. Here's the first exposure. Paul, what do you usually set your camera to catch a flying backlit hawk like this?.

Lava Lamp
12-16-2005, 06:05 AM
Tried to bring out more detail...

srobb
12-16-2005, 06:23 AM
Really nice job bringing out the details, lava. I am not Paul so I will not hazard a guess as yet. I will try to start id'ing after Christmas when I (hopefully) will have my bird book. I have seen some really red tails, but have not had a real good shot at them. :(

Paul, I would be interested in what your settings are for that as well.

paulnj
12-16-2005, 08:13 AM
I knew what it was even dark like the first.The second tells me it's age though ;)

What you have here is a juvenile redtailed hawk.

My setting for hawks in flight are not set in stone as you can imagine, but +1ev 5600k WB is a good start. I shoot RAW+JPEG , so if I do get a sweet shot, i can always adjust the raw as a last resort.

I am not fond of editing as I prefer to shoot shoot shoot.

.

alboy
12-17-2005, 12:09 PM
i took nice pic of a heron flying up the river , he is always behind my house on the river bank looking for his food... i tried to put the pic here but for some reason it will not upload so its in the gallery..............cheers


Here you go :)

http://gallery.photographyreview.com/data/photography/539/medium/244776herron.jpg

Knight
12-17-2005, 12:23 PM
Juvenile or Female Paulnj ?


alboy are you sure your respecting the file size and image size to upload ?

paulnj
12-17-2005, 01:26 PM
Juvenile or Female Paulnj ?


alboy are you sure your respecting the file size and image size to upload ?

Tough call there! I have never seen a pine grosbeak, With that faint an eye stripe and lack of the bright wingbars, I would say juvenile?

All my ID books are packed away with the rest of my gear right now. Starting at MIDNIGHT I am doing the Christmas Bird Count until dark tomorrow :confused: Good thing I got up at 6AM today to shop huh :rolleyes:

paulnj
12-17-2005, 01:35 PM
This is a purple heron I do believe. They look very similiar to the Great Blue Heron of the US.

Flight images aren't easy! You did very well for your first time.

mjs1973
12-17-2005, 02:48 PM
My first thought when I saw this in the field was that it's a Hairy Woodpecker. When I got home and looked in my book, it seems that the marks are very similar to the Downy. These aren't the greatest pics, but I'm sticking with my first thoughts and going with a Hairy Woodpecker.

Am I correct Paul?

Knight
12-17-2005, 02:49 PM
I took a couple of diferent pictures of these Pine Grosbeak`s , ill take a look and C if i can spot some differences.

paulnj
12-17-2005, 05:37 PM
I had the ID instantly from the first image..... DOWNY

The beak is too short and the white above it are some good field marks to go by. Hairy/ Downy isn't that easy though as You can tell.

mjs1973
12-17-2005, 06:44 PM
I had the ID instantly from the first image..... DOWNY

The beak is too short and the white above it are some good field marks to go by. Hairy/ Downy isn't that easy though as You can tell.


Thanks for the help Paul!

Lava Lamp
12-18-2005, 04:07 PM
Came across this bird on a trail through woods near a marsh. He ran along the trail in from of me for a while and this was the best shot I could get that wasn't just his rear end. Looks like a house sparrow, but it was pretty orange and extremely puffed up, as you can see. So what it is?

paulnj
12-19-2005, 05:33 AM
... swamp sparrow ;)

Lava Lamp
12-19-2005, 07:19 AM
Have we had a crow yet? I've found them very hard to photgraph -- very wary and all black.

alboy
12-20-2005, 08:10 AM
here is a shot of a gull i got this morning..

paulnj
12-20-2005, 05:32 PM
Have we had a crow yet? I've found them very hard to photgraph -- very wary and all black.

THAT IS ONE SWEET SHOT THERE!!!!!

paulnj
12-20-2005, 05:37 PM
Sorry, but all UK gulls I can't ID ... YET. coastal birds are my weak point.. don't tell though ;)

This appears to be a Common Gull ( Larus canus )

alboy
12-21-2005, 01:33 AM
yup its a common one, there is hundreds of them here.
there is a sparrow hawk always having a go at them, the gulls gang up on it, im yet to get a good shot of that happening......
cheers.
alan...

paulnj
12-21-2005, 05:35 AM
COMMON GULL is the name of it ;)

alboy
12-21-2005, 11:55 AM
did some research and its a herring gull, we dont have many common gulls here..

paulnj
12-21-2005, 07:18 PM
I don't want to sound like a know it all, but who says that it's a herring gull? While the UK has herring gulls of a different subspecies, I know the subspecies that resides in the US quite well . The outer flight feathers don't have enough black to my eyes, but I could also be WRONG since that's a different subspecies??

The UK has Larus argentatus argenteus , while the US has Larus argentatus smithsonianus

http://www.birdguides.com/html/vidlib/species/Larus_canus.htm

" The Common Gull is most likely to be mistaken for a Herring Gull but notice that it is much smaller with altogether more delicate features, including the fine bill which lacks a red spot. It also has greenish legs and a darker grey back than most Herring Gulls. In flight the black in the primaries makes a more extensive wedge with bolder neater white blobs near the tips. Immature Common Gulls in flight have a conspicuous black wedge on the leading edge of the primaries "

After much google research I still am not convinced of either ID ;) The white on the wing tips of the adult COMMON gull is missing and the BLACK feathers in the tips seems too little for herring gull. herring gulls have 4 different winter(or summer) plumages by age, so this very well could be a 3rd year herring with fewer black wing tip feathers than usual ;)

alboy
12-22-2005, 01:16 AM
i must say you are very much correct, after looking it up more i found that the herring gull and common are very much the same looking but the common is much smaller which this bird is.


cheers..
alan

paulnj
12-22-2005, 06:43 PM
I was not claiming to be correct, but if indeed it is small we have us a Common Gull ;)

I am not the best at IDing birds, but do know the fieldmarks to look for. IDing birds isn't that easy sometimes.. even for me :rolleyes:

Thanks for making me think!!

PLEASE keep the images coming too!

SmartWombat
12-24-2005, 07:22 AM
regulus regulus, I think.

Looking at these again. I'm pretty sure I've captured two different individuals here.
Last photo is an exanple of the ofher 30 or so :)

paulnj
12-24-2005, 09:07 AM
Firstly, welcome to my nightmare ;) I have deleted atleast 100 gigs of blurry heads alone !

What you have hear is a goldcrest, but had it been in the US we would have the EXTREMELY SIMILIAR golden-crowned kinglet. good images of them too!

On a side not, The US has RUBY-crowned kinglets, while the UK has it's cousin the FIRECREST ;)
No matter where you go in the world, the birds that fill a niche are relatively the same.... relatively ;)

SmartWombat
12-24-2005, 09:34 AM
>>good images of them too!<<
You mean I can't just do cars ? Wow !

I heard this very high pitched song in the tree at the end of our road on the way back from last minute Christmas shopping - and came back with the 100-400.
Annoyingly I think the best identification shots were in the other tree about 20 yards away, so they're tiny crops. But the late evening light was so good on the closeups I had to include those.

Lava Lamp
12-24-2005, 01:54 PM
Probbaly my best -ever shot of one of these. See them every day, but not usually close enough.

Knight
12-25-2005, 06:27 PM
Imposing creature he is :) good Capture .....

paulnj
12-25-2005, 08:38 PM
Ah the turkey vulture ;) the garbageman of the bird world!

I do agree that this is indeed quite a nice shot of a TV. I do see them at close range in flight at the hawk watch, but roosting at close range is a bit harder. I know were 6 roosts are(a church, high school bleachers, a mountainside , a big tree on a busy road and 2 radio towers), but only one, the mountain side, is worth taking images at. That location is 80 miles away and you would need to get there at sunrise/ sunset to see them roosting.

I will go out on a limb ;) and say you found one very close to a nasty rotten road kill just resting , which is when I see them close and low usually.

Lava Lamp
12-26-2005, 07:05 AM
There is a group in a large nature preserve 15 minutes from my house. I can ususually see them circling, but last week, there were maybe as many as a dozen birds circling very low and resting in some large trees. There were both black vultures and turkey vultures. This turkey was failty close. There was a black one prety close, too. I'll post it later.

By the way, Santa Claus brought me a Sibley Guide the size of a dictionary. Very, very nice.

mjs1973
12-26-2005, 02:55 PM
As I was coming home this afternoon I saw my first ever American Kestrel sitting on a road sign. Well, at least the first one I saw that I actually knew what it was. By the time I got my camera and back to the area where it was, it was long gone. I did come across a bunch of Ring-necked Pheasants tho. The first one is a 10-15% crop, the other two are full frame shots.

paulnj
12-26-2005, 03:35 PM
. There were both black vultures and turkey vultures. This turkey was failty close. There was a black one prety close, too. I'll post it later.

By the way, Santa Claus brought me a Sibley Guide the size of a dictionary. Very, very nice.


I am not saying you are wrong about the black vulture ID, but take a look at PAGE 107 of that new book ;) Juvenile TV's look similiar to black vultures.

paulnj
12-26-2005, 03:39 PM
I have only been able to sneak up on ONE kestrel in 5 years, so don't be disapointed that it was gone.

There is one cock bird that will become food or shot by a hunter . Being that ringnecked pheasants are ASIAN birds, I will bet it was stocked recently. Wild birds don't let you get close, like stocked birds do.

Lava Lamp
12-26-2005, 06:11 PM
I am not saying you are wrong about the black vulture ID, but take a look at PAGE 107 of that new book ;) Juvenile TV's look similiar to black vultures.

Boy, just when you think you have one down... ;)

Here's a close-up crop of one that I thought was a black vulture. It very well could be a juvenile turkey vulture. It was perhaps a little bigger than a black. I thought there were blacks circling around though: in addition to the grey vs. red head, the wing tips were different, and the top of the wings lacked the brown you see on turkeys.

paulnj
12-27-2005, 06:20 AM
Yes this is a TV ;)

No eye ring and brown feather.

The best way to tell them apart in flight is the wing pattern. Tv has white along the whole trailing edge of the wing, while Bv has just white wing tips.

srobb
12-27-2005, 07:13 AM
I am thinking this is a female , but after looking at it a little more I wonder if it may not be a juvy.

srobb
12-27-2005, 07:20 AM
Well, after a few failed attempts, I finally got this guy. It was reall comical watching him walk very gingerly across the ice.

I am still re-learning how to focus manually so these may have a little fuzziness to them. :o

srobb
12-27-2005, 07:28 AM
Sorry about the number of posts, but thought it would make it easier than one post with a bazillion pics on it. ;) :D Plus, I don't think I could do that many on one post.

I know it's a woodpecker and have not had a chance to look it up in my new bird book yet.

mjs1973
12-27-2005, 07:38 AM
I am thinking this is a female , but after looking at it a little more I wonder if it may not be a juvy.


I'm no expert but it looks like a female Cardinal to me.

mjs1973
12-27-2005, 07:40 AM
Sorry about the number of posts, but thought it would make it easier than one post with a bazillion pics on it. ;) :D Plus, I don't think I could do that many on one post.

I know it's a woodpecker and have not had a chance to look it up in my new bird book yet.


Red-bellied Woodpecker

srobb
12-27-2005, 08:12 AM
I'm no expert but it looks like a femail Cardinal to me.


Thanks, Mike. The way the plumage looked I thought it might have been a juvenile, but I suppose that could be the winter plumage.

mjs1973
12-27-2005, 08:19 AM
I'm pretty new to this whole birding thing so I don't know anything about the changes in plumage yet. There are a couple more female cardinals on page 3 of this thread that will give you a little better look at them.

srobb
12-27-2005, 09:04 AM
Here a couple more. Not sure about the first one. I did try to look up the second one and the closest I could come was a Summer Tanager.

srobb
12-27-2005, 09:07 AM
One more here. Not sure of this one. Maybe a woodpecker of some kind.

paulnj
12-27-2005, 05:32 PM
I'm no expert but it looks like a femail Cardinal to me.

looks female to me, but lacks the amount of red it should have in the wings.... maybe? it's a first winter female ;)

paulnj
12-27-2005, 05:37 PM
Here a couple more. Not sure about the first one. I did try to look up the second one and the closest I could come was a Summer Tanager.

First is a northern mockingbird and the second is a male house finch ;)

paulnj
12-27-2005, 05:44 PM
You found a yellow bellied sapsucker , which is indeed a woodpecker :)

dadas115
12-27-2005, 05:53 PM
Very nice photos of a golden-crowned kinglet!

Greg


regulus regulus, I think.

Looking at these again. I'm pretty sure I've captured two different individuals here.
Last photo is an exanple of the ofher 30 or so :)

dadas115
12-27-2005, 06:01 PM
This looks VERY much like a black vulture. I have seen a couple of juv TV's in the past and this doesn't look like them to me. Even if you look in the Sibley's guide it doesn't look like a juv TV.

Greg


Boy, just when you think you have one down... ;)

Here's a close-up crop of one that I thought was a black vulture. It very well could be a juvenile turkey vulture. It was perhaps a little bigger than a black. I thought there were blacks circling around though: in addition to the grey vs. red head, the wing tips were different, and the top of the wings lacked the brown you see on turkeys.

dadas115
12-27-2005, 06:03 PM
This looks a lot like a red-bellied woodpecker to me.

Greg

Sorry about the number of posts, but thought it would make it easier than one post with a bazillion pics on it. ;) :D Plus, I don't think I could do that many on one post.

I know it's a woodpecker and have not had a chance to look it up in my new bird book yet.

paulnj
12-27-2005, 06:03 PM
read my reply Greg and his correct ID too ;) He is in the UK. Yes, if this was a US bird it would be mistaken for a GC kinglet, but for some suttle differences.

dadas115
12-27-2005, 06:05 PM
My guesses are Northern mockingbird and House finch though the second one does appear to have a bit of a tanager beak in the picture it still says house finch to me.

Greg

Here a couple more. Not sure about the first one. I did try to look up the second one and the closest I could come was a Summer Tanager.

dadas115
12-27-2005, 06:07 PM
My guess is downey woodpecker. In the second picture you can really see the woodpecker tail.

Greg


One more here. Not sure of this one. Maybe a woodpecker of some kind.

Lava Lamp
12-27-2005, 07:56 PM
I posted a way-too-dark version last time. This is better.

Lava Lamp
12-28-2005, 01:57 PM
Probably an easy ID, but what the heck...

jfelbab
12-28-2005, 02:07 PM
Probably an easy ID, but what the heck...

Simply stunning. You can't even see the fine wires holding him up. :D

Exposure details please.

Knight
12-28-2005, 04:43 PM
GGreat Capture LL ,in flight shot is superb :)

paulnj
12-28-2005, 05:16 PM
Juvenile YC night-heron. Nice capture too!

paulnj
12-28-2005, 05:20 PM
I posted a way-too-dark version last time. This is better.

Still a TV ;) NO DOUBT about it either. BROWN bird, feathers are too high up the head for black vulture and.... TV's are brown like this one ;)

Lava Lamp
12-28-2005, 06:08 PM
The Sibley guide came in handy...

Lava Lamp
12-28-2005, 07:46 PM
Are you sure he's not a juvenille one of these?

Lava Lamp
12-28-2005, 07:57 PM
Has some luck today...

dadas115
12-29-2005, 02:40 AM
Nice work Lava, all three are lovely pictures.

Here are a couple of my recent new birds to test your ID skills with ;)

Greg

srobb
12-29-2005, 05:01 AM
Ok, I will take a try at these.

Green-tailed Towhee

Northern Pygmy Owl

Dark-eyed Junco

The last one I am still trying to figure out.

The only thing I can come up with on the last one is Phainopepla of the female persuasion.

paulnj
12-29-2005, 06:04 PM
Are you sure he's not a juvenille one of these?


You got me !!! BC and YC juveniles look very similiar in flight to me atleast. I see far more YC's in NJ , but yellow lores make YOU CORRECT !!!!

paulnj
12-29-2005, 06:16 PM
Ok, I will take a try at these.



Northern Pygmy Owl

Dark-eyed Junco

The last one I am still trying to figure out.

The only thing I can come up with on the last one is Phainopepla of the female persuasion.

SO CLOSE TOO........

Green-tailed Towhee is correct

The owl is a ferruginous pygmy owl I do believe

Thedark eyed junco is of a western race, mostlikely the red backed subspecies.

and that is most definately a female phainopepla(which is the only of the 4 silky flycatchers world wide to reside in the US)

Lava Lamp
12-29-2005, 06:46 PM
Shot yesterday...

Lava Lamp
12-30-2005, 05:11 PM
Shot yesterday...

paulnj
12-30-2005, 05:27 PM
That coot is nice, but WHERE did you find a common pochard? You didn't think you'd get me to say redhead did you ? :)

mjs1973
01-01-2006, 06:04 PM
My fiancee spotted these while on the way to her dads house tonight.

mjs1973
01-01-2006, 06:16 PM
These are my first recognizable pics of an American Kestral. I have seen tons of them, mostly sitting on power lines, but they NEVER stick around for a photo. I saw this one sitting on a post while on my way home today and thought maybe I could get a shot. I whipped a U-turn and went back to see if today was my lucky day. I shot these across a 4 lane highway and they are cropped pretty heavily. It didn't stick around long before taking off for a power line where another kestral was also sitting.

A new goal for this year is to get a GREAT shot of one of these.

srobb
01-02-2006, 06:40 AM
Nice pics of the kestrel, mike, and congrats on getting these. I know how it is. I am really wanting to get some good pics of any of the local raptors around here.

I am going to take a guess that your gf caught a couple of bald eagles on her pics.

Knight
01-02-2006, 02:17 PM
Sparrow and maybe Flycatcher or Warbler Need your help on these :)

Nice Capture on the Kestrel :)

paulnj
01-02-2006, 03:31 PM
Sparrow and maybe Flycatcher or Warbler Need your help on these :)

Nice Capture on the Kestrel :)


top image is a common redpoll on top and a yellow rumped warbler in the bottom(I think)

The other 2 images are goldfinches in winter plumage.

paulnj
01-02-2006, 03:33 PM
BALD EAGLES INDEED!

The single bird on the ice is a second winter birdm while the other images seems to have a first winter eagle obstructed by branches and the adult(5yrs plus) in the open. The reason I think the young bird is first winter is it's size. The adult bird seems smaller in body mass compared to the young bird. Wide DOF may be making the birds appear to be at equal distances from the camera though?

mjs1973
01-02-2006, 03:58 PM
BALD EAGLES INDEED!

The single bird on the ice is a second winter birdm while the other images seems to have a first winter eagle obstructed by branches and the adult(5yrs plus) in the open. The reason I think the young bird is first winter is it's size. The adult bird seems smaller in body mass compared to the young bird. Wide DOF may be making the birds appear to be at equal distances from the camera though?

I'm pretty sure (99.9%) that the young eagle in the tree with the mature eagle, is the same bird from the pic on the ice. As I got closer to the river, the young bird took off and landed in a tree on the opposite side of the river. As I watched it, that's when I noticed the white head in the tree. We drove back across the bridge to a spot where I took the pic of the two in the tree. Here is another pic of it, with a tighter crop.

paulnj
01-02-2006, 04:12 PM
How did I miss this blue winged teal? sorry... the thread is hard to rumage through for new posts ;)

paulnj
01-02-2006, 04:22 PM
I'm pretty sure (99.9%) that the young eagle in the tree with the mature eagle, is the same bird from the pic on the ice. As I got closer to the river, the young bird took off and landed in a tree on the opposite side of the river. As I watched it, that's when I noticed the white head in the tree. We drove back across the bridge to a spot where I took the pic of the two in the tree. Here is another pic of it, with a tighter crop.

Right you are !

I guess my hind sight was correct and it isn't really bigger than the adult .

I am hoping to do a eagle trip to NY state or maryland in the next month or so... maybe I too can post eagles?

Lava Lamp
01-04-2006, 02:12 PM
As close as I've gotten (today) to one of these...

Lava Lamp
01-04-2006, 02:42 PM
Here's the front view. The backlighting was savage, so this is kinda salvaged.

paulnj
01-04-2006, 06:50 PM
I know what iT is.. from the back even :) So ,let's see how good you are.What is it LL ??

These are great images for ID besides the under tail color.

Knight
01-04-2006, 07:11 PM
RTH is my guess :) But then again i may well be wrong lol
Good closup capture LL :)

Lava Lamp
01-05-2006, 04:58 AM
I know what iT is.. from the back even :) So ,let's see how good you are.What is it LL ??

These are great images for ID besides the under tail color.

Well, it's a juvenille. I thought it was a red-tailed hawk, but you could convince me that it is a broad-winged hawk or even the Florida variant of the Red-Shouldered Hwak.

paulnj
01-05-2006, 05:30 AM
you are correct!

Btw.. last night my puter and PR were acting funny together, hence the double post ;)

Lava Lamp
01-05-2006, 06:17 AM
Thank you. Thank you very much.

What's this one?

mdwsr
01-05-2006, 06:53 AM
Lava - that's a green wing teal

Can anyone ID this bird? I thought it was a northern flicker but not sure now, it lacks the black neck band:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v505/mdwsr/birds/post_woodpeckers/MG_4032.jpg

mjs1973
01-05-2006, 07:44 AM
My first guess was a flcker also. I'm still new to birds tho so don't take this as confirmation. :)

paulnj
01-05-2006, 01:03 PM
GW teal is correct and the flicker is a first winter(read juvenile) yellow shafter variety of the northern flicker

mdwsr
01-05-2006, 04:35 PM
GW teal is correct and the flicker is a first winter(read juvenile) yellow shafter variety of the northern flickerThanks all. paulnj, I thought that might be the case as well, but this bird is much larger than the northern flickers I have seen around here before. I have a picture of a pair that looks much different from the neck up.

paulnj
01-05-2006, 05:09 PM
Did you ever think that this is a migrant bird from CANADA maybe? Canadian robins are larger, so maybe there flickers are too?

post your image please, so I can ID them too ;) you may have RED shafter (western) northern flickers, while this is an EASTERN subspecies ;)?

mdwsr
01-05-2006, 07:48 PM
...snip
post your image please, so I can ID them too ;) you may have RED shafter (western) northern flickers, while this is an EASTERN subspecies ;)?Here is a shot of a pair of yellow-shafted northern flickers I shot about ten miles away, maybe 1 month earlier:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v505/mdwsr/birds/post_woodpeckers/5.jpg

paulnj
01-07-2006, 04:26 AM
Sure are and the male is the top one ;)

I assure you that your first image is a yellow shafted flicker too.

Whether it's a young bird or just abberant, I can't honestly tell you for sure. I will also give you my educate guess that this is most likely a female too.

http://www.birds.cornell.edu/birdhouse/bird_bios/speciesaccounts/norfli.html#Physical

mdwsr
01-07-2006, 04:51 AM
Thanks for the attention to detail, paul. I agree, it must be a northern flicker, but I've been watching this bird for over a month and it seems so much larger than the ones in the other picture, which are in a different location and are much different than the one(s) living behind my house. The picture I posted is not the best quality, but it is the best I have been able to capture so far. I have a blind and feeders set up in this area and hope to get many more shots.